Everton have reached an agreement with Chelsea for midfielder Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, according to an exclusive by transfer journalist Fabrizio Romano.
“Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall to Everton, here we go! Permanent deal agreed with Chelsea and player side. Understand the fee is worth £25m fixed plus add-ons up to £28/29m total package,” he wrote on Twitter.
When the deal is made official, Dewsbury-Hall will become the fourth new arrival this summer following striker Thierno Barry, goalkeeper Mark Travers and full-back Adam Aznou.
Patrick Boyland and Simon Johnson of The Athletic had earlier reported that Everton were involved in talks with Chelsea over the transfer of the 26-year-old midfielder.
Dewsbury-Hall made 31 appearances across all competitions for Enzo Maresca’s side in his debut campaign following his move from Leicester City. Although used sparingly in the Premier League, where he featured in just 13 matches, he appeared in every single game of Chelsea’s title-winning Conference League run and also racked up four goals.
Meanwhile, Everton are also desperate to sign Tyler Dibling from Southampton and have submitted a third offer for the 19-year-old winger.
David Ornstein reported in The Athletic that the bid is in the region of £40million, including add-ons, and although the Saints are yet to respond to the offer, they are seeking a higher fee for their young talent.
According to Paul Joyce of The Times, this is the third bid from the Toffees for Dibling after they saw two previous offers – a first bid of around £27m and a second in the region of £35m towards the end of last week – turned down.
Meanwhile, Sky Sports News reported that the Saints have also rejected the recently tabled third offer for the winger, but that information is yet to be verified by more sources.
The 19-year-old, who broke through in the Premier League last season, has a contract with the Saints until 2027 and has also courted interest from several clubs in England. Dibling is keen on returning to the top-flight after getting relegated with Southampton in 2024/25.
After making 38 appearances across all competitions last season, he scored four goals and provided three assists and has racked up 43 total appearances for the Saints so far.
This could be a pivotal week when it comes to transfers. Manager David Moyes also spoke about how he expects deals to be completed this week after Everton drew 2-2 with Manchester United in the final match of their Premier League Summer Series campaign in the United States.
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Kevin Molloy
1 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:37:58
just watched Tyler Dibling’s showreel. Reminds me of Matt le Tissier. I’m thinking we should just pay the money.
Mike Gaynes
2 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:39:03
What “more reliable sources” should we be expecting confirmation from?
Annika Herbert
3 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:39:54
I quite like Dewsbury-Hall too, he looked a real prospect when at Leicester but never seemed to break into the Chelsea side.
But they would be 2 good signings if Everton can make it happen
Steve Brown
5 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:42:22
If we have bid £40 million including add-ons and been rejected, we should not go higher.
I would rather we signed a pacey right winger as our wide players are slow. This lad is not quick.
Joe McMahon
6 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:44:48
Agreed Steve. I want us to walk away from Dibling. We cannot get shafted yet again.
Kevin Molloy
7 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:48:08
Senator, this aint no Gylfi Sigurdsson.
We need to get in there right now before he gets snapped up. After his first couple of games the first question on MOTD will be ‘why didn’t anyone else go in for him’.
Ian Bennett
8 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:48:25
Id sooner go for kubo if we are paying top dollar. We don’t have the squad to wait 3-4 years for the lad to come good.
Frank Crewe
9 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:48:26
Apparently our latest bid for Dibling involve add-ons. So what are realistic add-ons that a selling club could expect us to do so that they would get their money. Not getting relegated? Top 10 finish? Win a cup? A percentage of any sell on fee? This is Everton’s problem. After the last few seasons dodging the drop selling clubs want the cash up front. I doubt they’ll entertain add-ons from us.
Brian Harrison
10 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:50:26
I would hope out of the 2 we get Dibling, I think the kid is good on the ball can go past people and scores goals and is still only 19. Not convinced about Dewsbury Hall, he has obviously struggled to get into the Chelsea side and he didn’t impress me that much when he was at Leicester. With their spending Chelsea are desperate to unload squad players, maybe a loan with a view to possibly signing at the end of the season. The £30m being quoted looks a lot for a back up midfield player.
Ryan Holroyd
11 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:51:00
Ian Bennett
12 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:51:04
That’s my add-on take!
Andrew Ellams
14 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:52:07
Frank @9, it will probably be made up of appearance bonuses. So every 25 appearance say we have to pay another £1m
Martin Berry
15 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:52:25
Dibling not quick ? I must have been watching a different showreel !
Its his pace and strength allied to close control that gets him past players. Added to the fact he is just 19, he could be unplayable in a couple of years time, a real get your backside of the seat player.
Fingers crossed ( and other things) as excruciating as it can be.
Iain Johnston
16 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:52:53
Burnley fell into the same trap when they knocked back £40m from Chelsea for McNeil.
Personally I don’t know what they’re playing at. We could agree a combined £35m for both Fellows & Hackney today… job done. Just like Ndaiye their value will then treble and we’ll be the one’s knocking back stupid bids for them.
Anjishnu Roy
17 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:54:00
The right flank is one position in the starting XI where we need immediate impact.
Andy Meighan
18 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:54:24
The kid is special and someone will snap him up and get a bargain.
James Newcombe
19 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:55:22
Landing Dibling could be a strong sign to other young talent. Namely that joining Everton and playing every week is a better move than warming the bench elsewhere (or falling into the Chelsea black hole).
That said, the prices this window are nothing short of ridiculous. I remember saying this when Andy Cole moved for £7m! Where will it end?
Dave Lynch
20 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:56:37
Dewsbury Hall confirmed pending medical.
Steve Brown
21 Posted
04/08/2025 at
14:57:41
Now a right back, right winger, No.6 and party boy Jack Grealish.
Derek Knox
22 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:05:07
Also has a good chance of experienced passing to a Blue Shirt !
Nurse where’s that Bruised Balls Cream?
Ian Bennett
24 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:06:15
Is he the difference to help win a cup or start winning at Top 6? I don’t think he will make much of a difference.
Andrew Ellams
25 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:07:29
Ian, those players aren’t coming in this window.
Doug Nestor
26 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:07:39
Looks like a young Chris Waddle… Can we not just have a right footed, right winger?.. This kid is all left foot at the moment..
Ryan Holroyd
27 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:09:35
Dewsbury-Hall walks into the Everton team and isnt a back up.
Andrew Ellams
28 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:10:02
Ahead of Garner do you reckon Ryan?
Steve Brown
29 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:11:33
Dibling is more of a dribbler from when I watched him.
Dave Lynch
30 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:11:53
We’ve been here before with players nobody fancied; I remember Arteta signing and some saying he wasn’t good enough.
Steve Brown
31 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:13:09
Garner looked good playing No.6 against Man Utd, so he would complement KDH playing at no.8
Ryan Holroyd
32 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:15:01
I think reckon so, Andrew.
Frank Crewe
33 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:18:38
We are going to need quality in the midfield in the coming years.
Josh Horne
34 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:27:43
Eye watering valuation for Dibling. By turning down £35M, Southampton demonstrate how highly they rate him and their confidence that they can get more for him, either now or in the future.
He might be a great long term prospect. Whether we can justify a £40M+ spend depends on the total budget available, given we would still need a further 4-5 players.
Whilst I do welcome the ambition that is being demonstrated, I’m not convinced this is the best move for Everton right now.
Rob Halligan
35 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:32:56
Could Dewsbury-Hall be our quickest ever signing? As far as I know, we only put a bid in for him this morning, and it seems like he could be an Everton player by this time tomorrow!
Mihir Ambardekar
36 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:43:56
With regards to Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, a good footballer… but we need someone like Luiz to partner Gana.
Si Pulford
37 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:46:28
Garner had regressed. Not sure where he fits in at all. Dewsbury hall is on another level to him.
Kevin Molloy
38 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:46:40
Dibling is off the charts good Mihir. Have a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACxalpBAsBs
Mark Frere
39 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:48:37
He’s a player I’ve always admired. But, £29 million is a tad excessive as seen as Chelsea only paid £30 million a year earlier after he had a stellar season for Leicester in the Championship. He’s a year older now and was unable to establish himself in the Chelsea team so I think £18-20 million would be a fair price.
Furthermore, I would prefer us to spend money more wisely by signing younger players under the age of 25.
Neil Copeland
40 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:50:11
Rob, the club has obviously taken the kick up the backside from TW seriously. I am expecting at least 4 more by the end of tomorrow now 🤪
Rob Halligan
41 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:53:06
Neil, I reckon you had a word with someone whilst on your jollies!
Sam Hoare
42 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:53:57
Dibling at least offers something we dont have, a natural right winger who can beat people with ease and has high potential but KDH feels like someone around the Garner/Mcneill level and I think Ugochukwu who is off to Burnley or Chukeuemeka off to Dortmund may prove the better purchases in the long run.
Danny O’Neill
43 Posted
04/08/2025 at
15:57:35
Watching live or eve a full 99 on live TV yes. And listening to scout reports who should have been dispatched to report on
A bit harsh on Garner. When win the ball back, his instinct is to look and play foward if something is on.
As for Dewsbury-Hall, no idea, but it seems like a lot of money
Kevin Molloy
44 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:00:08
Danny
In most cases I totally agree re YouTube vids. But there are some players where the quality just shines out. If I had seen Rooney on a YouTube vid score his first few goals I’d still think he was brilliant.
Martin Reppion
45 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:06:46
Kevin.
Just watched the highlights reel you posted.
He has pace and a lot of strength for a young lad.
But, as others have mentioned he is all left foot. he also barely puts in a cross, preferring the cut inside and shoot method.
We have just pushed the boat out for a 6ft 5in centre forward, who would probably refer balls swung onto his head.
I’m not saying its a no from me. The lad looks like a real prospect. But he isn’t a typical right winger.
If we can coach some crossing and a bit of right foot in there, then he would defo add the x factor we have been missing.
Andrew Ellams
46 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:07:09
Will the Dewsbury-Hall signing mean Harrison Armstrong going out on loan for another year?
Ajay Gopal
47 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:09:06
If, and a big IF, Everton were to land both these players, that would be a real statement of intent by the new owners, and a sign that Everton are finally beginning to emerge from the shadows of the horrendous past 4-5 years. Now, get a real classy RB and then a couple of loans that will surely open up towards the end of the window, and we will have a very decent team that should be able to do the new stadium proud. A very strong English contingent too – Pickford, Tarks, Jarrad, Garner, Tim, Armstrong, McNeil, Dibling, KDH – cool!
James Marshall
48 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:09:47
Chelsea supporters all saying he has a great attitude and work ethic and that we’ve bought a bargain. Could be very shrewd business.
Henrik Lyngsie
49 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:10:23
I think some of you are a bit harsh on Garner. If we want to become a team with a little bit more possession then Garner is the key to that. He is really good on the ball and he actually passes forward and breaks the lines. If KDH is similar it is just a bonus. Maybe they will become good together and we can gradually retire Idrissa.
Geoff Lambert
50 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:10:54
Dewsbury Hall is a
great upgrade for our midfield, ball winner pace and an eye for a pass/goal.
Dibling is special make no doubt about it get him in now.
Keep this up blues and it’s looking good for our European challenge.
Jack Convery
51 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:11:13
Looking at his career stats he’s about a goal / assist in every 3 – 4 games.
Last season he played a total of 1,816 minutes, scoring 5 with 4 assists. That’s not, too far short of a goal contribution, every 200 minutes, if I’ve got my maths correct. The previous season ( in Championship ), he scored 12 with 15 assists in 44 games. In his last full EPL season, 2 goals, 2 assists in 31 games – to be fair Leicester were awful that season. His fitness record appears excellent.
Dibling next – let them have Tim as part of the deal or Harrison on loan, for a season, as part of the deal.
Who will be next Brownhill ? Coufal ? Semedo ? Vardy ? or am I being facetious !
Kevin Molloy
52 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:12:13
Martin
that is a frustration yes. But this kid trumps Barry, I’d sell Barry tomorrow if it meant we got this chap.
Andrew Ellams
53 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:16:39
There’s more to Barry’s game than being tall and heading definitely isn’t Beto’s strongpoint.
Mike Gaynes
54 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:18:08
There’s a proper order to these things, ya know?
Annika Herbert
55 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:20:26
Mike @ 55, well that brought a smile to my face, especially as someone who usually jumps on with the criticism
Steve Brown
56 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:24:12
Mike, I got “championship at best” in my back pocket for the first 5 minutes of his debut.
Joseph Murphy
57 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:26:33
I dont want Dibling, £40+m for a 19 year old with only 1 foot. Just watched youtube of the lad and he never touched the ball once with his right foot, not even to control it. A defender will just show him on to his right and he would be done for – we already have too many one footers – Beto, ONeil
Neil Copeland
58 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:29:06
Decent player Dewsbury-Hall and a step up from what we currently have although Jimmy Garner played well yesterday.
Really hope we get a RB and RW, very light on that side, the other areas are all bonuses I think.
Rob Halligan
59 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:30:04
Mike # 54…….somebody needs to phone the club and tell them to slow down with these transfers. Maybe a couple weeks or so, just to make us all sweat going into the last week of the transfer window.
Danny O’Neill
60 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:30:45
And judging having only watched for barely 90 interrupted minutes in 2 pre-season friendlies?
Strange call that Kevin.
Just had a message from my Chelsea cousin. Not happy they’ve let him go.
Derek Cartwright
61 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:33:21
I remember a fella that only used 1 foot think his name was sheedy and he wasnt to bad
Jake FitzGerald
62 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:39:52
Dibling is superb to watch, and ridiculously talented for a 19 yr old, but I cant see him as an out-and-out right winger at all. He always looks to go central and isnt close enough up front to assist or score. Could just be the way Southampton played him, but it doesnt feel like Beto or Barry would have Dibling in close proximity.
Ian Bennett
63 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:43:46
Might appeal to some, but I think you need more to your game than just beng quiet good on the ball.
The rest have that plus skill, pace or size. You need more than one facet to your game to succeed in the Premier league in my opinion.
Disappointed. If we had to have him, id of taken a loan to prove himself. Weve a squad full of average plsyers, released a load of average players, and then spend £28m on another.
Signing any old plsyer isn’t good enough. We’ve been here before.
Nicholas Ryan
64 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:48:08
Just looked at the announcement of this deal on the BBC Sport website. Almost all of the comments are coming from Chelsea fans; and almost all of them are saying: ‘This is a good deal for Everton’. None of them are slagging him off.
Ian Bennett
65 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:52:11
Frankly if I was in their shoes with a squad of 100 players, I wouldn’t feel too bad on him either.
Danny O’Neill
66 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:53:27
My Chelsea cousin is fuming they’ve let him go.
Conor McCourt
68 Posted
04/08/2025 at
16:58:01
I worry KDH is a Moyes signing in the mould of Ward Prowse at West Ham. A player who is a class act at a certain level but not really either physical or technical enough for the top end of the PL. (when allowed to dictate can look like a superstar)
The big difference I suppose he has from Ward Prowse is his flexibility in that he can play all of the midfield roles and off the left but can’t help think that he was a perfect signing for the last few windows (on loan) as opposed to this one.
Considering someone like Luiz was linked for a similar fee and not dissimilar age I think he would have genuinely moved the dial.
Mike Gaynes
70 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:00:41
Jake #62, that’s more or less what his former manager said about him in a rave review — said he’d done well on the wing but would eventually be a top forward. Compared him to Kane.
Conor #69, please be more specific. Chelsea has approximately 12 young right backs. Which do you like?
Steve #56, I actually had “championship at best” in my post but deleted it out. Thought I’d leave it for you to smash into the top corner.
Dave Abrahams
71 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:07:21
Mike (70) The news of possibly signing Dewsbury Hall has been on Grandoldteam for about four days.
Conor McCourt
72 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:07:43
Both Mike but I think Acheampong is the realistic one who may be available.
Mike Gaynes
73 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:12:24
Conor, in all seriousness I wouldn’t want that. I’m delighted to see us signing dazzling young talent up front and in midfield, but I believe we urgently need an experienced RB who can step in and play at the needed level from day 1. Vagiannidis, Maitland-Niles, guys who have done it would be my strong preference.
Steve Brown
74 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:19:28
Now that is a proper insult for a player who played 36 games for Chelsea last season!
Conor @ 72, maybe Chelsea would be amenable to a loan for Acheampong?
Kunal Desai
75 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:20:02
There is real value from abroad where players are not just looking at waiting for a Champions League club to come in.
It does feel a little panicky and desperate, flashbacks to 2017 a little.
There are players similar to the likes of Barry which can be picked up for much less than the potential value for both of these players.
Ebimbe at Frankfurt, Diehl at Stuttgart are just examples.
Pat Kelly
76 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:20:58
The National Trust has now blocked the sale of Dewsbury Hall.
Jake FitzGerald
77 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:23:32
If he can’t even do that properly, then how can you expect him to command a midfield?
Mike Gaynes
78 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:24:40
Where ya been?
I paid appropriate tribute yesterday on the Forum with a “We’re still in this” right after kickoff. Your copyright payment is in the mail.
Ian Bennett
79 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:25:32
He’ll score the odd goal, but I’d rather his £80k a week wages and £28M transfer fee be put into a better class player than him. We’ve enough squad players without adding another to it.
If you’re happy with it, great. I am not. I thought we’ve done shit business for years, and this is the same again.
You always get some that get excited over signing any old player. Once the wrapping paper is in the bin, they realise they’ve bought a pup.
I don’t see him as a central midfielder. He played wide left, but ndiaye is first choice, and Mcneil is too similar to him in my opinion.
Harrison, Garner, McNeil, James Ward-Prowse, Brownhill, Longstaff. It’s not a scout list, it’s an AI result of “bang average footballers”.
Pat Kelly
80 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:31:27
Glad you’ve been keeping the show on the road, Mike.
Ryan Holroyd
81 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:33:59
Just because you don’t see him as one doesn’t mean he isn’t one.
Ian Bennett
82 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:39:05
Powder puff is referring to his 5-ft 9-in frame. Garner is pretty light weight and lacks pace, put him next to him, you’re in trouble.
Come the Afcon, we have a midfield 3 of McNeil, Garner, Dewesbury-Hall. If anyone thinks that is a good idea, then god help you.
It’s what I’ve seen in him, Ryan. His touch map for Leicester was in a McNeil style, and the games for Chelsea, I thought he looked very lightweight.
Mike Gaynes
83 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:39:09
I have no opinion about this signing. Haven’t seen the guy play in about three years. But I would remind you that come the AFCON we will also have Iroegbunam and, unless he is loaned out, young Armstrong. Works for me.
Ian Bennett
84 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:39:44
There’s a reason, Mike…
Sam Hoare
85 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:40:45
I hope you won’t be too annoyed or shocked by me agreeing with you! Dewsbury-Hall is a very decent player but I’m not convinced he moves the dial and has mostly excelled in the Championship or Conference League. It’s a lot of money for someone that age yet to do well in the Premier League. I would have preferred him on loan or someone else.
Lots of younger players with greater potential we could get for that fee. Feels a bit like Moyes’s cautiousness but his versatility could be useful and he should slot straight in at least.
Andrew McLawrence
86 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:44:35
Done deal according to BBC, £28M.
Mike Gaynes
87 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:49:16
Anyway, glad to know you think he can slot straight in. We need a mix of those along with the young signings.
Andrew Ellams
88 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:49:23
Ian @ 28, the better class keeps turning us down.
Jake FitzGerald
89 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:50:46
Even if we do get Dibling across the line, there’s still room for a big name loan there too. Then we’re looking decent.
Ian Bennett
90 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:50:57
We will pay this fella £80k a week plus and a fee of £28M.
Ryan Holroyd
91 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:51:15
We will bring in another central midfield player to go along with Dewsbury-Hall.
And he’s a much better player than James Garner.
Bobby Mallon
92 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:52:57
Ian Bennet must be a bundle of fun to go the game with!
Sam Hoare
93 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:53:57
In his last stint with Leicester in the Premier League, he was pretty unremarkable, managing 3 goals and 4 assists across 2 seasons.
John Pickles
94 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:54:16
I love the skills but saw only one goal, a ‘tap in’, and no assists.
Andrew Ellams
95 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:54:46
Ian, they’re turning us down because they don’t want to play for a bottom of the table English team they know very little about because they are never in Europe.
Grant Rorrison
96 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:56:14
Ian 82. You’re worried about how light weight the midfield is but when Idrissa goes away to the AFCON, you’ll be even more concerned. Despite the fact that he’s the lightest?
Ian Jones
97 Posted
04/08/2025 at
17:59:21
Out of interest and purely hypothetically, if Adam Wharton was to become available, would we want to buy him?
Mike Gaynes
98 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:01:25
I count on you for this stuff.
Ian Bennett
99 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:04:13
The position in the table doesn’t matter. It is the wages on offer. It is clear we are not going above £80k, when anything remotely decent is looking for £120k plus.
For the right players, you have to pay top wages. We can afford that for some in the team. If you want to pay sub-£80k for key players in attacking positions, you’ll end up with a team like Leeds, Sunderland, Burnley, Southampton, Leicester circling the drain.
Ryan Holroyd
100 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:05:27
Yes Ian. Almost every team in England would want Adam Wharton.
Steve Shave
101 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:12:09
I agree with Ryan’s comment that he walks into this team. Bloody good player.
Bill Watson
102 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:16:12
What I love about ToffeeWeb is that, if we sign a player I don’t know much about, I can come on here to discover just how crap he really is!
Mike Gaynes
103 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:16:39
With Maddison having apparently blown out that same knee yesterday in Seoul, expect Spurs to go big for an attacking mid.
Mick O’Malley
104 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:19:47
Some good comments from Leicester fans as well. I’m happy with this signing.
Ian Jones
106 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:28:01
It’s just that a lot of people get hung up about stats.
As far as my mini research shows Wharton has played 36 Premier League games for Palace and scored 0 and assisted 5. In something like 44 games for Blackburn, he scored 4 and assisted 4. So not a great output. 🙂
As I have said on many occasions, assists and goals aren’t always a true measure of a player’s abilities. It’s the ‘pre-assist’ if such a word exists that is also important.
Geoff Lambert
107 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:31:04
Take no notice of what Chelsea and Leicester fans think of him.
Just have a look on here — you will see how slow he is: can’t pass, can’t score, can’t assist and can’t even tie his own shoe laces.
Ryan Holroyd
108 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:39:24
It’s a great point you make.
Andrew Ellams
109 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:40:31
Peter Reid’s goals and assists would have been low compared to most, so I guess he would have got the same treatment back in the day too.
Billy Shears
110 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:43:25
What about Fellows? I heard about £9M would get him?
At that price, we could sign another right-winger or a striker!!
Mike Gaynes
111 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:44:11
Nobody loves stats more than I do but, as I’ve mentioned before, I made a fool of myself grousing about our signing this bum McNeil after he played a full season at attacking mid for Burnley without a single goal involvement. Zero.
And now he’s had 33 in 100 games at Everton, far and away the club leader.
So I’ve learned to take stats with a touch of salt.
Ian Bennett
112 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:44:28
In 36 games, he has 5 assists, 1,241 passes and 127 defensive contributions.
You’re comparing chalk and cheese.
Terry Downes
113 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:49:00
He looked a cracking player for young England in the recent tournament.
Ed Prytherch
114 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:49:54
I was a bit surprised that Chelsea bought him given the quality in their team but then he seemed to fit in okay.
Alan McGuffog
115 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:58:07
Bill 102…excellent comment amigo. Loved it. So true.
Jimmy Carr
116 Posted
04/08/2025 at
18:58:30
Well done Everton. A reasonable price for a young-ish midfielder with proven experience at the top level. Good signing, well done to the recruitment team, more please – and as a Brucie Bonus it stops Davey Moyes from complaining for a bit.
Jerome Shields
117 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:01:50
Dewsbury-Hall is the play-making midfielder needed.
Roy Johnstone
118 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:04:07
They saw him on loan at Luton and in the Championship with Leicester, so let’s see.
Jay Harris
119 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:10:26
Oh for a young up-and-coming Richarlison.
We need goalscoring forwards and even Dibling is not the answer.
Ryan Holroyd
120 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:18:30
I’m sorry but that’s one of the worst comments I’ve ever seen in ToffeeWeb.
In regards to Dibling, we will end up messing this up and Dibling will go to a Spurs type in 12 months for double the asking price it is now.
Everton are idiots.
Ian Jones
121 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:19:42
He’s not just gouda, he’s grate – he’s mature beyond his years. I just sometimes find all this spreadsheet stats talk is just crackers. Apologies, I was readying these for a future Live Forum but have gone early!
And for those that like a stat, Tim Howard has more Premier League goals than Adam Wharton.
Danny O’Neill
122 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:29:15
As for Dibling, I have a nagging, probably unfounded thought in my head.
19 years old and a south coast boy, born in Exeter and spent most of his youth career at Southampton. A short stint at Chelsea, but quickly returned to Southampton, because he couldn’t settle. West London is only an hour and a half away down the M3 to Southampton.
If he was a more mature player it would be a pure football decision, but would he prefer the likes of Bournemouth or Brighton if they were willing to pay? Or another crack at London with Brentford or maybe West Ham?
Like I say, just something that came into my head.
Ian Jones
123 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:38:05
Possibly add Spurs or Fulham to your thoughts.
Neil Thomas
124 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:42:20
Dewsbury-Hall is a massive upgrade on any midfielder we have, and a huge upgrade on Doucoure. He has pace, skill, can pass through the eye of a needle, and can also finish and run past players. Whoever compared him to those other 3 either ain’t seen him play, or knows nothing about football.
As for Dibling, I’ve seen him quite a lot, and instead of moaning about him, we should be grateful after the last few seasons that he even considers us. I’ve seen comments that he’s got no pace, obviously you ain’t seen him, or you would prefer us to sign Usain Bolt.
The lad is rapid, got strength, two good feet, and I’ve seen him glide past some of the Premier League’s best defenders, and he’s only 19. It’s a complete no-brainer for a lad who is going to be worth £100M plus in the future.
Bobby Mallon
125 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:46:30
Player prices do not mean they are good or bad. Look at Sancho at Man Utd. Fucking shite at £90M. If these players are good, then they are good.
Jake FitzGerald
126 Posted
04/08/2025 at
19:48:40
And I reckon Southampton know that too.
Grant Rorrison
127 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:00:02
Southampton just know we’re desperate and want to see just how desperate we are.
Mick O’Malley
128 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:03:27
Geoff@ 106 agreed, Maresca made him one of his very first signings, if not the first, when he became Chelsea manager. But as you say, maybe Moyes should have visited TW to get the lowdown on him before signing him.
Jon Atkinson
129 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:03:29
Some dribblers on here, that’s for sure!
Robert Tressell
130 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:07:44
My completely made-up theory is that Roma bought Rensch for us in January because he was a bargain with 6 months to go on his contract. Now that they have top target Wesley, they’ll release Rensch to us on loan with a cheap option to buy.
Ian Bennett
131 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:13:47
Would you sign Dewsbury-Hall for £29M and Dibling for £45-50M?
Kevin Molloy
132 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:19:30
Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.
Mike Gaynes
133 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:24:35
Ian #121, please don’t Brie any more of those cheesy comments here. You’ll create a Muenster.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
134 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:32:08
Yes, I do get annoyed with Football shows who put up stats like Martin Keown 585 games 5 goals. So what? He was a defender. I would be more interested in the number of clean sheets he had or tackles or clearances off the line.
Far more important stat for a defender than the number of goals he scored. It is a bit like saying in a 10-year career, this Fireman only handed out 2 parking tickets. That is not his job, how many fires did he put out?
What are Idrissa’s stats?
Robert Tressell
135 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:32:53
As for Dewsbury-Hall, of the linked players, personally, I’d rather have had Gallagher as he adds more steel I think and probably helps Alcaraz more – but would probably have been more expensive. Who knows… he may yet come on loan?
There are also cheaper foreign options too but Dewsbury-Hall is ‘oven ready’ and Moyes seems to strongly believe we need that. Also £29M isn’t that much really (Phil Neville was £25M inflation adjusted).
Whatever the case, I don’t know (a) how much money we have or (b) whether we pushed other targets and got rebuffed.
One thing Moyes did good job with last time around was build a team of committed (if somewhat too nice) British players. Probably helped with the team spirit etc. He also focussed on players who could occupy a role in the first team for 5 years plus – in order to eke out maximum value for money.
Grant Rorrison
136 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:33:28
He’s sorted that out while he’s been here, to be fair to him.
Don Alexander
137 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:35:34
Dewsbury-Hall as a player doesn’t excite me to the same extent but his credentials, age and fee seem attractive to me even in the bizarre world of Premier League transfer fees.
Paul Tran
138 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:40:24
What little I’ve seen of Dibling, he’s certainly talented. Southampton are holding out for as much as they can, testing our nerve, as we are theirs. I hope we get him, even if we pay over the odds. If everyone wants it to happen, it’ll go through this week.
Mark Murphy
139 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:46:47
I’m travelling to Bavaria this week with two days in Alsace from tomorrow. I’ll be stuffing my face with some of that!
Mark Murphy
140 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:50:46
I just hope Moyes doesn’t go all Don Howe on them.
Stu Darlington
141 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:52:23
Dewsbury-Hall is a good footballer but needs the right mix of midfielders around him. Dibling has the skill and power to make things happen.
If it comes down to a choice, I know where my vote goes!
Gavin Johnson
142 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:54:04
A better deal at £25M plus £3M in add-ons and around £80k/wk wages (Chelsea wage) than splurging the best part of £34M on Luiz and £150k/wk wages.
Brian Cleveland
143 Posted
04/08/2025 at
20:54:31
Must admit Dewsbury-Hall had totally dropped off my radar, especially as we’re desperate for a couple of right-footers. Has the natural demographic changed? Are we as a population now producing more lefties? Seems all we get associated with now.
Don’t mind this signing, I’ll do the cartwheels when I see how we perform as a team with 11 lefties.
Neil Tyrrell
144 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:03:17
In all seriousness, from what I’ve seen of him, he looked good. I’m less familiar with Dibling but he seems highly rated by just about everyone. And nothing comes cheap these days, bought a dozen eggs lately?
Si Pulford
145 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:03:43
And anyone who doesn’t think Dewsbury-Hall walks into our first eleven is (and I’m being polite here…) …… a lunatic.
Stuart Sharp
146 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:04:38
You put Dewsbury-Hall in the same bracket as Tom Davies? Really? That is baffling. Chelsea don’t buy Tom Davies bracket players. Sheffield United do.
I think it’s a great signing given where we’re at just now. An intelligent, classy player who is still young but has Premier League and European experience.
Dibling looks class in patches, and again the sort of player we should be going for, but my God, the valuations these days…
Ernie Baywood
147 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:05:35
I’ve seen a bit more of Dibling. He’s definitely a bit special – confidence pouring out of him. You don’t get many English players like him. I’d love us to get him but the sort of money being talked about seems crazy for someone so unproven. Reminds me of Waddle… would you pay £40-50M for Waddle?
Mind you, maybe the club has that sort of money now. It’s hard to get used to after the last few years.
Bobby Mallon
148 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:08:33
I would pay £40M for Waddle.
Nathan Ford
149 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:09:45
Younger more progressive with a wider range of passing and also likes a good solid tackle.
Bobby Mallon
150 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:09:50
I have to say Dibling is defo worth £40M but no more — he’s a good player.
Gavin Johnson
151 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:11:06
Apparently Saints have turned down £35M and £8M in add-ons. I think we should go back with £40M and £5M in add-ons, take it or leave it.
Mark Murphy
152 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:15:34
He was brilliant in patches and for me is one that got away.
He and Calvert-Lewin make me sad.
Peter Mills
153 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:18:15
I also become very frustrated with his “we are hoping to get to where we might begin to think about competing to be in a position where we may be able to qualify for a place in Europe” type of comments.
David, your average career has made you fabulously rich. You’ve done well since you’ve been back here. Life is short — go for glory, win us a trophy.
Scott Hamilton
154 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:20:53
Nice place but a shit selection of beers.
Mike Gaynes
155 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:23:46
Not trying to be snarky, but I must have sneezed and missed those patches.
Neil Tyrrell
156 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:26:12
A singular patch, but still…
Danny O’Neill
157 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:29:03
If these 2 signings come off, that’s 6 signings, Branthwaite retained and in excess of £100M spent before we bring in any further additions.
Time for expectation, not excuses. It won’t just be coming down from the stands, it will be from the hawkish board.
Stand up and be counted, David Moyes. Show us what you can do. We want you to, because we want Everton to.
Rob Halligan
158 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:33:45
The Guardian are now saying we will increase our bid to £40M. Nothing about any add ons.
Kevin Molloy
159 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:34:42
yes, I think he’ll need to at the very least match Carlo Ancelotti’s first full season. We’ve been bollocks for a decade, but I’m sick of Davey and his excuses.
Paul Hewitt
160 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:36:32
Bobby@148. He must be well into his 60’s now.
Mark Murphy
161 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:38:38
Cmon Mike – Tom Davies showed exceptional promise at one stage. Even the usually Everton sceptic press were tipping him as a future England captain.
He was the next, after Ross Barkley, that got me thinking we had something.
Simon Dalzell
162 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:39:10
Southampton Taking the Piss. Why wouldn’t they ? We need to bite the Ruud Gullit and pay.
Jimmy Carr
163 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:50:16
Let’s look forward to some further whinging and maybe another signing or two as the week develops.
Bobby Mallon
164 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:51:13
Paul 160 I bet hes still better than most wingers, I loved waddle and how he looked like hd couldn’t run then pow hes past you and in on goal
Kevin Molloy
165 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:56:28
according to Colin Gibson, siralex had to be restrained at half time after he’d been laced up and down all half by Waddle. ‘where’s that c**t Gibson!’ he was shouting. Still can’t get my head around how Alex thought Waddle’s talent was somehow Gibson’s fault.
Robert Tressell
166 Posted
04/08/2025 at
21:58:50
– Matt ORiley
– Quinten Timber
– Kenneth Taylor
– Lewis Ferguson
– Gabriel Sara
– Morten Frendrup
– Conor Gallagher
There are some good players here – but no absolute worldies and KDH looks decent business and decent value against this peer group.
I also agree that Dibling has a resemblance to Chris Waddle too – and he was an absolute star of a player. Scored a cracker against us after I think dispossessing Kanchelskis while playing for Bradford. Years past his best at that stage but still superb quality.
Sam Hoare
167 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:02:51
Maybe weve got a shed load cash than any of realised but I still dont like the idea of overpaying. Dibling costing £15m more than Rayan Cherki seems strange to me.
Ryan Holroyd
168 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:06:20
Dibling: still in negotiations, 3.5m gap, player wants to come. Expected to get done.
KDH – City changed goal posts re fee for McAtee from 25m. Everton moved to KDH. On way for medical.
Grealish – The interest remains. Everton are currently front runners for the 29 year old. Everton have held talks with Manchester City over a loan deal with the belief that a deal is still there to be had.
talks with Grealish went well and the finances involved have not dampened Evertons hope of securing this premium loan. Regardless of the two deals above, this is still on David Moyes wish list before the window closes.
Dixon and Onyango on way to Stockport soon.
Mike Gaynes
169 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:07:46
Neil, Murph, yep a magnificent single day against City, and in my first-ever game at Goodison he scored in only 32 seconds. Memory for a lifetime. But since that day he has scored 6 goals in 8 seasons. Physically he just didn’t have the gifts. And all the mental mistakes under pressure drove me crazy.
Liam Mogan
170 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:10:54
For 40m you want someone who goes straight into the starting XI. I hope he does.
Christian Hill
171 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:12:04
That’s a lot of money for a player who’s never played fir his country.
Paul Hewitt
172 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:14:46
Newcastle tried to highjack that KDH deal, but he turned them down.
Mike Gaynes
173 Posted
04/08/2025 at
22:16:11
And if the kid is what Moyes believes him to be, I think the bigger mistake would be to walk away over the excess £5m and watch the player turn into a star someplace else.
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