Dwight McNeil’s move to Crystal Palace collapses

£20M?

I’ll not believe McNeil is gone until I see him in a Palace shirt holding the scarf over his head.

For fuck’s sake, yep, Bobble confirmed deal fallen through.

Just for once it was looking good for Everton.

Absolutely shocking news about McNeil.

Someone wants sacking, it would have been the best deal of the season.

I wonder why it fell through?

Did Palace offer £20k and for some strange reason, we thought they said £20M?

McNeil move to Palace is off.

Latest from Sky Sports News’ Vinny O’Connor and James Savundra:

Dwight McNeil’s move to Crystal Palace from Everton has collapsed.

The deal was for a loan with a £20M obligation if certain thresholds were met.

Sky Sports News understands paperwork was not done in time.

According to BBC, paperwork not completed in time.

Now that is so old school Everton. I thought TFG were a well-run organisation…

Part of the medical involved him kicking a ball with his right foot?

Kidding he might have a few big goals for us in him yet. Honestly don’t think he’s got up to full match speed yet this season.

Welcome back, Dwight.

Typical of McNeil… no end product!!!

Looks like we are stuck with the mopey sod for a bit longer.

Honestly thought we might have moved on from this paperwork not filed in time kind of shit. Does not reflect well on our new American overlords AT ALL. Amateur hour continues.

And I say this with no malice towards Dwight, just the incompetent bean counters.

According to BBC, deal fell through because paperwork not submitted in time.

Now that is old school Everton. I thought that TFG were supposed to be the professional organisation we all crave for.

Based on this, nothing has changed.

Both clubs involved in the deal have to complete the deal sheet.

Maybe it was Palace who were late with completing their part of the paperwork?

🚨The deal sheet for Dwight McNeil’s move to Crystal Palace was submitted in time and McNeil completed his medical.

But due to Palace’s sale of Mateta collapsing they changed terms from £20M purchase to a loan with an obligation and then pulled out

(Via – David Ornstein)

Palace didn’t submit the paperwork in time.

Maybe they saw sense!

Like a new signing.

And like various other new signings, he should not expect much game time.

Well, maybe it will work out well for everyone. We’ve got two wing positions which without Dwight were due to be covered by three teenagers and a tired-looking Ndiaye.

I suspect Dwight will come in useful in quite a few games this season when we are needing to manage games to a successful conclusion.

For once, I don’t think that Everton are to blame.

It was Crystal Palace that failed to get the paperwork in on time.

Why would Moyes be replaced by the palace manager ?.

Were not going down. We are not going to win a trophy and we wont qualify for a lucrative CL place. I would like TFG to lay it on the line to him now – Give the loyal fans what they want or we’ll get somebody who will.

you need to read a couple of entries above mine Darren. Hopefully TFG aren’t wanting to start issuing ultimatums to high performing employees, and I can’t imagine they will.

hopefully they will have more patience, and will realise we are not yet in a position to move to total football, not with our current fullbacks, and three teenagers in the team.. They will realise there is a mature plan in action to build the team incrementally back to the European spots over the next 2-3 years, and that will be more than enough to meet his job requirements.

One mans preference, Kevin. Hardly a huge cry to get him in.

Mind you; Now that you mention him. He achieved something in one season that Moyes has failed to do in twenty seasons when he won a domestic cup and If you think he will get relegated this season, come and see me on betfair.

By the way. Nobody is calling for “total football”. we just want Moyes to stop hiding behind the couch and surrendering possession before a ball is even kicked.

I’m not talking about 4 center backs. Thats just one game. I’m talking about his whole approach.

Moyes was given well over 100m for players. he was also allowed to bring in a top class player on loan from City. There is no doubt we have better players than Doucourie and Harrison, but we still surrender the Lions share of possession week in week out Thats on the manager and his cowardly approach

I can’t imagine the deal failed because of us. Even we can’t be that incompetent surely? Much more likely, Palace got cold feet having over paid for the Wolves guy and failed to recoup anything for Mateta. Strikes me they are in some disarray right now.

Or at least that is what I’d like to believe because McNeil’s race was well and truly run with us.

I’m sorry the deal never went through for Dwight’s sake, he’s not wanted here by most fans, the manager didn’t seem to rate him and Palace seemed to be at fault over the paper work or wanted to change the deal.

Dwight looked like he wanted to go so he’s the biggest loser here, I hope you get a move in the summer Dwight and carry on and have successful career elsewhere hopefully in the premiere league.

Darren @39, super Frank wanted us to “love having the ball”. We don’t have the players to play football. Sad and true, I know.

I wondered if every single social media search related to EFC was bombarded with vitriol, hate and “thank you very much” towards Mr McNeil put some suitors off??

Fans? Yes, of course! Supporters?? Not so sure?

Following Everton seems to be a bit toxic at the moment.

One of my first memories/visits to Goodison was the Ferguson derby and we were shitter then, but more together.

We have a different set of players than we had under Lampard. Gifted players who can play.

We have more talent than at least half the teams in the league. Yet we cower against all of them. No excuses.

Moyes doesnt have to go “Gung Ho” Thats just an extreme used by people apologising for him.. He could win over the fan base tomorrow. All he has to do is send his team out on the front foot.

He wont, because he wont.

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What a fucking shambles of a fucking football club. Even the socialists could run the place better. Just fucking do one Everton.

Chris and Kevin, are you honestly happy with the recent draws against Brighton, Leeds, and Wolves? Where we sat back and absorbed their brilliance for 45 minutes before even having a go? Take it even further back to the derby, this was the RS as low as they’ve been in many years and we sat back like we were terrified of them until we were 2-0 down, then we gave them a game.

Moyrs has done alright with his pragmatism. It just crosses the line into cowardice way too often for my liking. Not asking for 1970 Brazil, but at least try to fucking win from the off. There are no unbeatable teams in the league this season.

Yeah, fair. Sorry, kinda.

The closest to the truth from my little search from Lampard’s first 11 was

Pickford

Patterson grodfrey mina Miko

Alan Gomes Townsend

Gray Gordan Richie

Maybe similar??

Both shit, agreed.

However, the more pertinent fucking question to ask is, why record signing Tyler Dibling …. a left footer no less (and probably not a Catholic) …. Isn’t playing? Absolutely Everton that….

The last £45m player we bought ended up being wrongly accused (BY THE CLUB) of sexual offences against a minor. And written off the books at a great cost.

Meanwhile, in the real world, everyone else is scrambling around doing deals to fill the bench and we’re fucking about, as per usual, like it’s 2011 again and Bills hidden the Arteta money down the sofa.

Neil, I fucking hate Moyes’s football (much better that dyche, big Sam, unspeakable c**t, etc) but, yes, it’s shit. But it isn’t the horror I’m still traumatised by for the last few years.

I was at Brighton on Saturday (in the home end behind the goal) and I was so bored by the time Beto decided he could finally get his feet in order, I was numb.

I’m not saying I like Moyes’s football. I’m saying it’s a nice change to not lose every bloody week

Neil

are you forgetting we had like seven players out?

I hope Crystal Palace have the decency to apologise to Dwight tomorrow.

They’ve treated him disgracefully.

I’m glad you had that equalizer moment at the Amex Chris, and sorry you were in the wrong end. Hope you quietly (or not) enjoyed the moment.

And like I said, Moyes pragmatism is fine up to a point. He’s got us all but mathematically safe, and it’s much appreciated. At this point not turning up to play for the first half, week in week out, is beyond frustrating. We could beat all of these teams. But we do nothing but protect the 0-0 for half the match, every week. Isn’t football about trying to win?

I’d much rather the club kept their distance from the accused.

I certainly wouldn’t want the fantastic footballer, (proven innocent but we all heard it), Mason Greenwood on my team.

@neil 54 haha. I’m an ungrateful c**t!

To be fair, If I’d been with the travelling, I may (definitely) have been in ecstasy too?

But still, football isn’t suppose to bore you for 97 minutes first, is it?

No Kevin I’m not, and as previously stated am not ungrateful to Moyes either. But we never had 7 players out v Brighton, and I would think the mighty Leeds and Wolves were missing players too. They were certainly nothing to be afraid of.

I’ve done more than enough to derail this thread so I’m bowing out. Maybe I’m the dinosaur here and not Moyes.

Palace it seems reneged on the deal or substantially moved the goal posts. Didn’t submit their paperwork.

The reasons for this will be known only to Palace.

Business is business, but they made the offer, they had the player complete a medical. That’s a pretty shabby look imo.

Is that a joke, Neil 51?

There is due process in criminal investigations and that means you are innocent until proven guilty. Yet the club threw GS under the bus first sniff. And wiped their hands. It was despicable. And there’s silly old me thinking Scousers all stuck together. Unless…..

Taking the word of plod as given though. Dear me….

Neil @57,

I felt like from someone that rarely contributes and barged in a thread, you beat me to it. Sorry to you, and to all blues. I love me blues, that is all.

Nick, you posted:

“Wrongly accused (BY THE CLUB)”

Was that a joke?

Nick @59,

Didn’t the club pay his wages for around 18-24 months? Then he fled the country?

If they thought he was innocent, I doubt it’d play out like that?

Nick @ 59, the nameless one was suspended on full pay pending the court case.

That is standard employment practice where an employee has been charged in a criminal case. The club would have taken external legal advice before doing so.

Nick Page (49): However, the more pertinent fucking question to ask is, why record signing Tyler Dibling …. a left footer no less (and probably not a Catholic)

Do you want to explain this bollocks – ‘left footer’, ‘catholic’. WTF does ‘catholic’ have to do with it? Explain.

You put ‘(BY THE CLUB)’ in upper-case lad. It’s there. We can all read it. We’re not stupid, not least when you try to deflect/smokescreen with your ‘Plod’ stuff, lambasting and lampooning others in cowardly gaslighting, when there is only one idiot who needs to explain his words.

Kevin (37), it’s me the pedant again: ‘You see that first half with four centre backs, I see a midfield [of] KDH Grealish Dibling and a revitalised Garner’.

Grealish did not play. Dibling got his usual late walk-on part. KDH was, I thought, well below par that day. Garner was decent despite some awful set-pieces.

Dave 42

It’s got to be hugely awkward and embarrassing for McNeil showing back up at FF tomorrow after news of his departure was leaked, then greeted with applause from most fans. Feel sorry for him really. It would have been a good deal for us and for him, not sure it would have been great business for Palace but c’est la vie.

PH no one hates McNeil. No one knows him but still admire him for his moving personal story. Calling him a crap player or whatever on those lines is not hating him PH.

For my part, I think he has been awful this month. I’d be happy if he never started for us again PH. But I don’t hate him – how can I? – and wish him and his lovely lady all the best.

PG tbf I have heard the expression “left footer” associated with catholics many times myself. It was used for me many times (co-incidentally I AM a left footer in both sense of the word.)

I think Nicks just trying to be humorous.

Mind you, I’ve just seen his “even the socialists could do better” shite….

What the fcuk?

MM, whether true or not mate, that still does not explain why Page felt it to be appropriate to bring in ‘catholic’. It’s not humour. This fella has never been humorous. From his pleas to march on the club on Saturdays – when he was never there – his has been a voice of fuck off this and fuck off that and you dozy twats who do this and that.

I’ve never been called a left-footer as a catholic who vehemently supports Irish independence. In my experience, left-footer has, pathetically and sadly, been used against people who love someone of their own sex.

Shit! I’ve never heard that last bit! Bastards!!!

You’ll be telling me next that sheep shagger is also derogatory!!

Reading it, Palace got cools feet and pulled the deal.

Quite who is sanctioning Brennan Johnson, Mcneil & strand Larsen, and keeping an unhappy mateta, when the manager is leaving is an odd one.

Not far off £100m was being spent, with not a clue if the manager fancies them or not. Seems crazy.

Left footer? As a lad growing up in Liverpool it was always a reference to Catholics, used to be called one myself but I’m alright now, thanks for asking.

On our unamable player (mainly ‘cos I’d bugger up the spelling) wasn’t he the original complainant as he went to the police (Manchester plod I think, not Merseyside?) and made a complaint about blackmail.

Sean 33.

Moyes fucked up the team, well this time 14 months ago we were all nervously looking at our fixtures wondering where the next goal would come from let

Fast forward 14 months and while the displays are hardly scintillating, it’s not the worst I’ve seen either.

We’ve had injuries, suspensions and Afcon and we’ve done ok coping with that.

I suspect youd like Sean back you know nervous last couple of weeks of the season shitting ourselves if we’d survive or not.

Moyes has ensured there’ll be none of that again so name me your choice of manager who you think will bring this brand of attacking football everyone craves.

I’ve got news for you, there isn’t one, even Guardiola Sloth etc are getting it in the neck from parts of their fan base, and these have recently won major trophies and one of them is still fighting on 4 fronts.

I despair at some of our fans sometimes I really do, the club is in a better place than it has been for years yet the likes of you Sean and others can’t see the bigger picture.

Interesting piece written by Dwight’s partner on Insta. It came up on Essential Everton’s FB feed for those interested to find it and read it.

Looks like he went through the mill yesterday with his non transfer. Tough game at times.

He supported his partner when she was ill. They’ve had a tough few years together.

Ian – 83 – the link was pretty easy to find.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=122287831202208399&set=a.122105577914208399

As I said PH, no one hates McNeil whether as a person or player. This is a very good reason why –

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=122287831202208399&set=a.122105577914208399

Dwight is a very lucky fella.