A Year of Moyes Mark II, but is it stagnating?

It’s all very well stating “look where we are now compared to…” but, this isn’t then it’s now.

The football is still terrible to watch, we are out of every domestic competition and pose very little threat to any of the top teams.

In fact we pose very little threat to the mid-table teams, Spurs, Brentford, Sunderland, Wolves have all but played us off the park and at home to boot.

Moyes may last to the end of the season but that should be the last we see of him imo, I (personally) could not stand another season of his inept tactics and wasted opportunities to carry us forward.

Dave 1. Well put.

I think Moyes has from now until May to prove that he can take us forward as opposed to just being comfortable and surviving.

Currently, as devoted as I am, I am bored, disappointed and unemotional watching them.

We had a 15-minute spell in the Forest game away when the 3 behind the forward interchanged positions with each other and played some nice football.

Fast passing and moving. A basic tactic, but one we don’t use a lot.

We seem to struggle more, the less Premier League quality footballers we have available.

Strange that! Must be the manager’s fault.

Well it’s looking like we’re making do with what we’ve got this season. The right-back and goal-scorer issue will have to wait till summer.

This decision will cost us places in the Premier League. Moyes wants to save up, it seems.

When the full team is back from injury and Afcon, with a couple of new additions hopefully at right-back and centre-forward, I honestly believe this would transform the brand of football we’re watching.

When Dewsbury-Hall moved in to the Number 8 position, I thought some of the team’s link play was the best I’d seen from us for some time. Although limited only by our strike force.

People don’t seem to be looking at how thin this squad really is, but expecting miracles.

Without our key missing players, the fact is we’re not too different to the Bottom 3.

Give him the rest of the season then sack him off!

He’s a fucking dinosaur, never plays young players, always gives us Blues excuses, fucking lied to us about Aznou… his subs!… game management is dogshit, his away record at top away grounds is piss poor… and we all know it!!

I simply never liked him… 11 years without a Cup?… He is a multi-millionaire out of our club!!

Get Rid!

Nearly forgot…

He is the fucking master of deflecting the truth too!

If he hadn’t come back, we would most likely be relegated by now. Massive progress with a threadbare squad.

In his last stint it took time and patience (what some fans lack !). He took the club from the doldrums into European football and created an exciting team to watch with no money backing him.

He was on the cusp of something great and he will finish the job this time. There will be ups, downs and stagnations but I’ve no doubt we are on the right path to success.

Very true, John P, because it’s obvious that no team is going to improve when they lose a few of their better players all at the same time and especially when those same players are the most creative players in his team.

The squad is very thin, I think that’s very easy to see Paul C, but it’s the way the squad is used that doesn’t really fill me with any confidence, and this lack of confidence probably applies to quite a few of the players in his squad?

I expect us to finish the season strongly once we get everyone back fit, but I’m just as uncertain about TSF — The Silent Friedkins) as I am about David Moyes, as another trophyless season passes us by.

I believe that the supporters appreciated his hiring that moved us into a safety position.

This season, with a decent start, I think that supporters see a manager who is predictable in his tactics, his misuse of timings of substitutions, and his handling of youth players.

They believe that we need a more progressive manager who can be unpredictable in possession, and doesn’t keep passing backwards, allowing the opposition to reorganize.

The opposition seem to be able to win a ball in their own area and 3 passes later are in our area yet Everton take 4 or 5. There is no doubt that Moyes will keep Everton in a safe league position but he does not seem capable of putting out a strong team in other competitions.

A new stadium needs new ideas and Moyes appears to be too one-minded to provide them.

Rather than back Marco Silva with reinforcements, we choose to sack him when he was lacking players.

Ferguson, Ancelotti, Benitez, Lampard, Dyche, Moyes since; we realise that we now need another manager.

With missing key players, the wisdom is we need a new manager.

Get him gone. Get a new manager in, and we can look forward to a European tour with loads of cups on the way. It’s a squad of world beaters no doubt.

Glad we learnt from Marco…

A few bad, bad results and performances to be fair recently.
Moyes hitting his real first bad spell now, 2nd time round. The injuries and suspensions coming while Afcon and the busy Xmas period are going to hit the performances of such a thin squad.

You don’t build a squad in 1 transfer window, or 2 for that matter. The massive turn around in players at the end of last season was always going to be a challenge.

The 2 big buys haven’t worked out yet in Barry and Dibling but that’s football isn’t it? Then you have Dewsbury-Hall who’s probably exceeded expectations.

Managers lose games, some on TW go on like Moyes inherited the Man City squad and has us mid-table!! We’ve been shopping in bargain basements for 2-3 years and the squad players reflect that.

I didn’t want Moyes back, not because I didn’t think he’d do a good job, but because he won’t get the same time from fans to build a side because of his previous with the club.

If we are still playing as bad as against Brentford, Wolves or Sunderland when we have Dewsbury-Hall, Gana, Alcaraz and Branthwaite on the pitch, I’d be worried.

Not sure it is anything other than what you get with Moyes. Some good runs of games, some bad runs of games, few draws, ad nauseum.

Ultimately he averages out with a win record of 40% for his whole managerial career. Steady but unspectacular. You’ll rarely, if ever, win something.

We shouldn’t expect anything else from him.

The perils of mid table.

We aren’t going to get Champions League or get relegated. It does get boring and the inconsistency is infuriating.

But compared to the last few seasons of constant relegation battles, this is progress, genuinely.

We need more than 1.5 transfer windows to take us forward and hopefully players in key positions remaining available and performing to their potential.

This season has so far played out exactly as I predicted it would. Just hoping we can add some more quality this month, we desperately need it.

Derek @ 10.

In all the teams Davey has built here, none of them can be described as “exciting“.

Not arsed about exciting unless we’re winning. I want winning football. Who arsed if your score 4 but conceded 5??

You’re not getting Tarkowski, Mykolenko, McNeil, Beto or Patterson playing in a team that’s playing glorious football. That’s where the squad is at: years of under investment has left us with a rag-tag bunch of squad “bodies “. Once you need to start using them, the performance levels drop dramatically.

“You get what you pay for” is the saying… well, £25-27M for a striker these days is not big. We paid more for Michael Keane!!!

We have been on the managerial merry-go-round since Moshirir took over.

A honeymoon period lasts about 12 months… then a plateau… then the sack, all in the space of about 18 months.

I don’t think TFG will be much different to Moshiri or any other owners in the Premier League. The Barry and Dibling signings are looking like sackable offences.

If Barry had scored 10 goals by now we would be very close to the Top 5.

Dibling is a concern for me: for a young lad, his body language is terrible. He looks a shadow of the player Southampton had.

Moyes has done well overall, steadying the ship. The formation is very similar to what we had with Dyche only we have a couple of better players available.

Perhaps it is second season syndrome with Dibling. Plenty seem to have a wobble, once teams work them out a bit.

I’m sure we’ve had it before.

In my honest humble opinion I think Moyes upto one week or so ago has achieved a lot (been out the country one week and this is how you treet me) any way with the players we have available didn’t expect much, I hoped we would do better. Could Moyes of done better with his selections? Yes slightly. Would we have done better who knows. I really wish I knew how much influence the gaffer had with the Dibling and Barry signings and how much influence he had on C L leaving or staying? I think it will be very telling if we sign any players this window! If we bring anymore young players who may or may not be ready to start then the writing may be on the wall at the end of this season but can’t imagine the owners or cheif exet doing that. If we bring in older more established players ready to play 27 or28 or above loaned or especially bought then he will run out his contract if we finish top 8.. So we will know what is likely to happen with the signings or lack of no sign nings and goodbye David at end of season if no signings as that will meen board don’t trust him.